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Cast a spell
Cast a spell on the country you run
And risk
You will risk
You will risk all their lives and their souls

And burn
You will burn
You will burn in hell, yeah you'll burn in hell
You'll burn in hell
Yeah you'll burn in hell
For your sins

And our freedom's consuming itself
What we've become
It's contrary to what we want

Take a bow -Muse

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/02/usa.humanrights

'The United States is operating "floating prisons" to house those arrested in its war on terror, according to human rights lawyers, who claim there has been an attempt to conceal the numbers and whereabouts of detainees.

Details of ships where detainees have been held and sites allegedly being used in countries across the world have been compiled as the debate over detention without trial intensifies on both sides of the Atlantic. The US government was yesterday urged to list the names and whereabouts of all those detained.
...
The analysis, due to be published this year by the human rights organisation Reprieve, also claims there have been more than 200 new cases of rendition since 2006, when President George Bush declared that the practice had stopped.
...
By its own admission, the US government is currently detaining at least 26,000 people without trial in secret prisons, and information suggests up to 80,000 have been 'through the system' since 2001. The US government must show a commitment to rights and basic humanity by immediately revealing who these people are, where they are, and what has been done to them.'

Justify this, fuckers.

Date: 2008-06-03 12:34 am (UTC)
lindsaybits: (fists in the vaseline we are)
From: [personal profile] lindsaybits
Justify this, fuckers.

If there's anyone who CAN? I am SO moving to Norway. :P

(Okay, i'm sure there are people who could certainly try to justify it... i meant, do so in a way that most sane logical people could potentially agree with.)

Date: 2008-06-03 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] only-half-of-me.livejournal.com
Makes ya so proud to be an american, doesn't it?

Date: 2008-06-03 01:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scottopic.livejournal.com
It makes me proud enough to want to fight this even more, y'know?

Date: 2008-06-03 01:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] only-half-of-me.livejournal.com
Absolutely my friend. These things are certainly not what this country is about, nor needs to be viewed as such by the rest of the world.

Date: 2008-06-03 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daucus-carota.livejournal.com
231 days until his tin badge expires & counting!

...not that dubbedya is to blame all by his little lonesome, but I can count anyway, right?

xxx

Date: 2008-06-03 01:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chapel-of-words.livejournal.com
The best way to protect your country is to emulate the worst of your enemies it seems. It's not like the neocons even considered that perhaps being *more* like Saddam than a free republic was a good thing, they just took it for granted that this War on Terror(tm) is "serious business" and can't be left in the hands of free thinking citizens or the legal system of a free republic. They have come to accept Guantaemo as bad, not because it was immoral, but because it was *known to the public*.

I just hope one day, some day - just like there needs to be a serious accounting for Al Queda, there needs to be a serious accounting for those leaders who thought Saddam had a better approach when it came to dealing with prisoners.

Tim C.

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