And as an additional point totally off topic I'm beginning to wonder whether, in matters of foreign policy, the first domestic faction to send US soldiers abroad and get them killed wins, owning the trump hand of "their sacrafice will not be in vain", "cut and run" and "stay the course" cards in a full house arrangement.

I never understood how it was automatically assumed to be patriotic they who cause the deaths and wounding of thousands of US soldiers "just because", not necessarily on the current effort alone, but moreso in consideration of the legacy of JFK, Johnson and Nixon.

Tim C.